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Proof of God II: Dark Matter

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Composite Credit: X-ray: NASA/CXC/CfA/ M.Markevitch et al.;
Lensing Map: NASA/STScI; ESO WFI; Magellan/U.Arizona/ D.Clowe et al.
Optical: NASA/STScI; Magellan/U.Arizona/D.Clowe et al.;

A new image illustrating “dark matter” has been revealed by scientists. Dark matter is conjectured to explain something scientists observe of the universe…there is more gravity than what we can see accounts for. IE there appears to be invisible “stuff” throughout the universe that exerts gravity, but otherwise cannot be seen or detected. The picture above illustrates the first direct scientific proof that dark matter exists. Why is this important? Because without dark matter galaxies and eventually the universe itself would just fly apart. And the existence of dark matter is also considered more proof that the Big Bang actually occurred. Pretty heady stuff, if it pans out this is a major scientific breakthrough in our understanding of the universe.

Sometimes dark matter even “clumps up” and we can see where there is more of it, which is what the picture illustrates. The picture is of two clouds of galaxies colliding. The red is the gas riding the shock wave from this titanic collision. (This cosmic collision may be the most energetic event since the Big Bang that created the universe.) The artificially coloured blue areas are where gravitational lensing is distorting the view of background galaxies, so there’s something there even though we can’t see it!

What the heck is dark matter anyhow? Invisible stuff that permeates the universe, but cannot be seen or detected except for the gravitational influence it has on the universe and everything in it? Stuff that is responsible for holding the very fabric of our known universe together? Maybe we need to stop looking for the literal Face of God in the heavens, dark matter may be the invisible hand of God for those who would see:

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

— Colossians 1:15-17

(Use of the above historically important image is claimed as Fair Use under US copyright law. It is properly attributed, it is not being used for profit, and is central to the subject matter of the post.)

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Written by unitedcats

August 25, 2006 at 9:42 am

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  1. Outstanding post, Doug. I love science as much as theology and have often wondered if dark matter may be tied in with the missing “God particle” that CERN hopes to find with its new particle accelerator. I have also written articles about scientific bias that exists today and how scientist limit themselves by failing to factor even the possibility of intelligent force into their equations. Of course we know that much of science today operates with blinders in its effort to find credibility and remain “objective”.

    Will be back to talk more–I have a lot more up my sleeve, such as a theory that Einstein’s theory of relativity was actually the discovery of God himself, etc.

    Again, enjoyed the post!

    -j

    P.S. Not sure if you realized it or not, but the man who proposed the Big Bang was a professed Christian–just posted along this line today.

    bereans

    August 25, 2006 at 9:50 am

  2. Fritz Zwicky first pronounced his amazing dark matter theory in the 1930s, and coined the term from his native German, dunkle Materie. He also was the pioneer of the sky survey technique, coined the term Supernova, pronounced his theory of gravitational lensing, and neutron stars, which were all rejected by the scientific community. A prophet is often rejected during his lifetime.
    Dr. Zwicky consistently encountered envious colleagues in the scientific establishment, who hindered important advancements in astonomical discovery by rejecting his theories, they now so readily embrace. Dr. Zwicky was so brilliant that it took his colleagues over 70 years to accept dark matter. It is not acceptable, to discuss dark matter, without acknowledging Fritz Zwicky, as the originator of the concept.

    Dr.h.c. Barbarina Zwicky

    Barbarina Zwicky

    February 3, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    • Dear Dr. Barbarina Zwicky, I read of your father with fascination. As we consider building a Virtual STEM school, we thought of naming it Zwicky after your father, but we are wondering if you can tell us – Was your father an atheist, agnostic, or believer in God? Thank you for sharing this personal bit of information that is unclear in the studies I have done so far.

      Diane Strack

      January 8, 2010 at 7:57 pm

      • I will be addressing this issue in depth in my own future publication. I am happy to share this with you; my father taught me a song that I sang every night in Swiss-German with him. Translated the last verse was: “And the Heavenly Father in Heaven will be with me and guard me through the night.” I follow the Christian faith and am a Born-Again Christian. As a scientist, my father always maintained that the universe and our solar system was so unique and perfect, that it could never have its genesis by chance but was by creative design.

        barbarina zwicky

        January 21, 2010 at 10:38 am

    • give it up – all are tired of your lies.

      nlcatternick

      October 17, 2011 at 9:03 am

    • Dear Barbarina Zwicky
      Are you still out there?
      If so, I would like to know if your father Fritz ever crossed paths with Immanuel Velikovsky ?? They were contemporary and must have at least been aware of each other.
      A very very funny thought crossed my mind and I would like to share it with you…..

      Dmitro Woychuk

      Dmitro Woychuk

      March 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm

  3. I thought you were pulling my leg, I looked him up and my oh my, what a remarkable man. I am writing a follow-up post about dark matter and I will be sure to sing Mr Zwicky’s praises, I am very grateful that you brought him to my attention. Thank you very much. BB —Doug

    unitedcats

    February 3, 2007 at 11:52 pm

  4. Thank you, for your consideration of my father’s scientific accomplishments, and my efforts to realize those to the public, thus honoring his memory.

    Barbarina Zwicky

    February 28, 2007 at 8:56 am

    • Dear Dr. Barbarina Zwicky, I am a 79 year old grandmother who loves God and studying about the amazing universe that God provided for us. I have been studying on line and watching the science channel, “Through the Wormhole” and reading about dark energy and dark matter for a long time but I have always b een disappointed that no one seemed willing to give God just a bit of the credit. After reading your reply to Doug,I am elated with both of your answers. We truly serve an awesome God and can look forward to an unimaginable existence in the universe that God is preparing for those who love Him. I just realized that this blog was writen in 2007! Oh well, I am so happy, Thank you both for remaining true to Christ!

      Ann Chappell

      February 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm

  5. I was thinking myself that dark matter could be the expression of God. But personally I consider God as a multi dimensional entity (above all including time). So I think dark matter could be just a multi-dimensional form of matter or spirit, which at the time is not projected in any way in our three-dimensional material world. But the fact that is not projected three-dimensionally doesn’t stop it (the dark matter) to action in our world. And I am thinking at Carl Sagan example of a bi-dimensional world where all the entities have just two dimensions, let’s call them x and y. So for us (three-dimensional entities) is easy to see and understand their plane world. But they will se us just as projections in their x-y plane. If we agree to put a finger on their plane x and y they will se the contact between our finger and their world. If we decide instead to just put our finger on top of one of bi-dimensional entities that entity will feel the pressure but will have no way to see where that pressure is coming from. For that entity above does not exist and does not make sense. I feel this is true in the dark matter case. We feel the pressure but we cannot tell anything about its nature. So I guess what I want to say is that normal matter is multi–dimensional matter projected three-dimensionally and dark matter is multi-dimensional matter not projected but pressuring out three-dimensional world. Both have the same origin but they have different purpose, and the dark matter purpose is beyond our understanding for the moment.

    Horia

    September 14, 2007 at 5:17 am

    • Does the notion of dark energy fit into this line of thought? As a non-scientist without an in-depth grasp of these concepts, upon hearing these theories, my first inclination was to assign these to the divine. I can accept the nature of God as multi-dimensional, transcending space, time, etc. and dark matter by your description would not be in and of itself the expression of God but rather some form of creation. But, the concept of dark energy, which exceeds dark matter which exceeds measurable matter……. Does that lend to a better understanding of the divine? I’m inclined to believe that, albeit a monumental discovery (as have been all new understandings throughout the course of understanding the cosmos), these new discoveries are just a closer glimpse of the tip of the iceberg.

      Dave R.

      September 16, 2010 at 10:22 am

  6. ” how scientist limit themselves by failing to factor even the possibility of intelligent force into their equations. ”
    how can you factor “something” into an equation when one does not know what that “something ” is …………..
    i googled dark matter and God and hit this page … interesting stuff and concept.

    jethroe Hershawe

    December 25, 2008 at 11:34 am

  7. It is only based on poor reasoning, poor theology, and poor science that you conclude dark matter to be proof of God. Just because gaps in our knowledge exist, does not make a scientific “in” for God as a part of the explanation. That is what philosophers call “god-of-the-gaps” theology. Additionally, it goes against the cause of science which is to provide ‘natural’ explanations for phenomena. Headaches used to be thought as demonic possessions, healed by drilling a hole in one’s head to release the evil spirits. Thankfully, medical science has been seeking solutions that don’t require a spiritual (and dangerous) conclusion but rather a natural one. These gaps in our knowledge are becoming smaller. To put your beliefs into these narrowing gaps will only lead to their logical rejection. Faith and science are distinctly separate.

    Anonymous

    January 13, 2009 at 11:52 am

    • I googled this concept to see if I was the only one pondering this idea – fun to see others with similar thoughts.

      I thought I should reply to this post as I disagree with the poor reasoning and poor science part, although I agree with the theology comment.

      If we live in a Universe created by God and believe he interacts with it then it is not unreasonable to suggest that an unexplained phenomenon that has some charecteristics expected of God could be God. Not poor reasoning.

      As research into Dark Matter continues it may quite probably be discovered that it is not a direct observation of God. Disproving or failing to disprove a hypothesis is what science is all about – no matter how simple the hypothesis may be.

      However it would be poor theology to make this the basis of your understanding of and belief in God – it is just a fun thing to wonder about. Just as atheism is unaffected each time an abiogenesis theory flops, theism would be unaffected if dark matter turns out to be something other than God.

      Science is literally knowledge, and is obtained by following the evidence where it leads, to discover the true explanation (or as close as we can get with our current knowledge). Allowing only “natural” explanations is to exclude any correct supernatural answers before you begin, which is atheistic prejudice not science.

      If faith and science should be separate (which is the Baconic philosophical ideal) then atheism needs to be removed too as it is just another faith trying to pass itself off as science.

      Magnus

      April 5, 2010 at 6:49 pm

      • I completely agree with Magnus – “Atheism is just another faith trying to pass off itself as science” ” Science should not preclude the study of supernatural phenomena”
        IF humans are gifted enough to glean understanding of events outside our planet – Then I trust that we are also able to understand supernatural phenomenon and the fourth dimension – and most importantly understand the implications of any possible interaction with our three dimensional world

        Ade

        March 22, 2012 at 7:22 am

  8. LOL I concluded nothing of the kind. The existence of an invisible all-powerful being cannot be proved or disproved in any logical or scientific way. Faith and science are only “completely separate” if you categorize them that way. It may be a comfort to you to imagine we live in a giant three dimensional clockwork machine where humans may ultimately comprehend every cog, but I don’t share your faith. The map is not the territory.

    unitedcats

    January 13, 2009 at 4:25 pm

  9. I love science, this is very interesting. I wonder will there be some benefit to “harnessing” dark matter in the future.

    gothceltgirl

    March 13, 2009 at 3:25 pm

  10. Why is dark matter required to exist?
    So astronomers can see that something that is not visible is holding our universe together, and they guess that it is an invisible, non-material mass. Why isn’t it just God, and these gravitational observations just proof that God exists and is holding everything together.
    My theory: there is no such thing as dark matter.
    God is what is holding gravity together where it shouldn’t be.

    Doug

    November 6, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    • because the universe is epanding at an ACCELARATING pace. that has been verified.that is true.that is WHY

      douglas

      March 3, 2012 at 5:38 pm

  11. So god is dark matter? Good thing, I don’t think dark matter cares at all for my actions and how they affect other people. Dark matter, if the theory holds, would just be another physical force in the universe. It has nothing to do with prophetic views of an almighty being who cares about how you behave and who will punish or reward you based on your willingness to believe in it.

    Besides, understanding and harnessing dark matter and not just calling it god would be so much more useful for humanity.

    TeXaS

    March 17, 2010 at 12:59 am

    • You must have skipped over what Horia said. Dark matter could just be the observation of God within the Unverse rather than the full extent of what God is. Just because it’s all that can be detected is not to say that it could not be linked to the prophetic views you describe, and in fact those very same views are the ones that give greater weight to the thought.

      I agree understanding and harnessing dark matter could be very useful, and we should contiunue to strive towards it, but it is fun to think what implications there could be if it is never understood or harnessed no matter how hard we try.

      Theism is not the end of science – in fact science as we know today it is hugely indebted to a long tradition of great theistic scientists – as Barbarina Zwicky mentions above.

      Magnus

      April 5, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    • First you have our planet – A system that evidently speak of intelligent purposefulness in design ( consider that our planet is conducive to Humans, Animals and Vegetation – A situation that provides sustenance for humans – Yes science provided us with better irrigation methods. But how did the earth come to possess it’s natural fertility – A fertility enhanced and renewed with the seasons.
      Human life and our bodily functions speak volumes on intelligent design – why did my eyes have to be positioned where they are? why not on my knees?
      Dark matter has proved that a force in opposition to gravity is holding the entire universe together
      What if that force were accessible to individuals in degrees and measures?
      What if the whole point of mankind’s history and experience is to prepare him to understand and wield that force?
      Just thinking…just wondering.

      Ade

      March 22, 2012 at 8:02 am

  12. As a follower of the God of the Bible I find this article very interesting. I understand that dark matter cannot be measured directly neither can it be seen directly in anyway. However, it is obvious that this matter is exerting a force.

    To say that this matter is actually “God” comes with heavy speculation. In other words, just because you can’t measure it, doesn’t mean that the matter is incapable of being measured. Just like the discovery of the atom, dark matter is only awaiting measurement by man in some shape or form. Who knows, we may come up with something that measures gravity in particles and therefore come up with some other form of “gravity”.

    This is not to say that this isn’t the hand of God, its just to say that measuring this matter will only take time. It will most likely happen sometime, however, just as accepting that God is the one true God without reading the Bible is like accepting that dark matter even exists without studying it.

    Conroy

    April 27, 2010 at 2:17 pm

  13. Fantastic topic. I love where God and science meet.

    i.n.galbraith

    August 12, 2010 at 2:06 am

  14. Dark matter is part of the created world and therefore is not God. God created it therefore it exists, just as He created all things.
    ‘1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.’ Gen 1:1,2 NIV 2010. It is clear from this statement that dark matter and dark energy are both elements of the created world and therefore made by God, the Creator. Now, I am not referring to ‘darkness’ in vs 2 as dark matter, but rather to the point that before anything existed there was God. God is incomprehendible and escapes our naked imaginations unless He reveals Himself as He has done in Jesus Christ ‘The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation,’ Colossians 1:15 NIV 2010. In Christ there is no need for imagination nor splitting hairs because He was flesh blood and those who saw Him could touch Him and speak to Him. Christ in the flesh is God taking the created form so that creation can understand Him, and also to fulfil all the salvation requirements. Now someone may say, ‘gravitational lensing’ is making the invisible visible hence God wants to be seen or maybe we have become so clever that we can actually see Him now? This could be blasphemy because God has already revealed Himself in Christ Jesus. What is to say, if you really want to be spiritual, that this invisible dark matter is not a company of angels? Wouldnt it be blasphemous to call an angel, God? Some say ‘Oh its the arm of God’, but the arm of God or the finger of God is the Holy Spirit, i.e. the same God who can not be seen. We now know that the power of the sun is from fission, so one day we will understand what dark matter and dark energy consist of.
    God existed before creation i.e when there was nothing, therefore we cant figure Him out nor see Him in our present state, that is the created state. ‘For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.’ 1 Corinthians 13:12 NIV 2010
    At present the human race is like a foetus in its mother’s womb, we are alive and kicking but we really dont know why or where we are. But when we are born into the new life, the we will see our God face to face just as a child is born and sees its mother and knows that it is human.
    Honestly these discoveries of dark matter and dark energy are just the fulfilment of these scriptures;
    Psalm 19:1, ‘The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.’ NIV 2010
    and,
    Hebrews 11:3, ‘By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.’ NKJV. Even here I am confident that the reference to the ‘invisible’ is not dark matter nor dark energy but rather total nothingness. Now bend your mind round that!

    gforoma

    December 27, 2010 at 7:51 am

  15. Despite what I wrote above, I do agree that the discovery of dark matter and dark energy are a proof of God’s intelligent design. However we need not look so far for the proof of God’s existence. For example, what do you see when you look into the eyes a fellow human or any living thing? What is that sparkle that is in the eyes of the living? I am not saying that it is God, but what is it? Neither am I saying it is dark matter nor dark energy, but what is it? We all call it life, and when we use it we call it ‘living’. When its gone we call what remains ‘death’. But what is it? Another word for spirit is life. But we all know that spirits are invisible except by visions or witchcraft.
    ‘The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their ways are vile; there is no one who does good.’ Psalm 53:1 NIV 2010

    gforoma

    December 27, 2010 at 8:24 am

  16. Nobody can escape death No matter how hard you try! when you see it, it will be to late. dont wait until it’s too late. Accept that he exists. Human knowledge is nothing. we think we know something. God has a name for every star!He knew everything and everyone before he created the universe!He knows your and my life! when you die be ready to give an account for your life in front of your creator! There will be no excuses since I told you!

    aleksaay

    March 7, 2011 at 1:15 am

  17. Dark matter is only god as such as all energy is god. But maybe there really isn’t any such thing as “dark matter” per se. Maybe “dark matter” is just gravity but that gravity is coming from other dimensions at the subabtomic level (through very tiny wormholes). So the gravity is just slipping back and forth between dimensions. This being the one thing all dimensions share. This to me makes sense as it would keep the law of coservation in tact. Meaning that energy really can never be created nor destroyed–just transferable. And with energy being an ever building consciousness and it being god and and it being love and all that jazz it keeps everything as one. Even dimensions. All that exists in any galaxy, universe or dimension is one – god.

    heyman29323

    September 11, 2011 at 6:20 am

  18. I read somewhere that dark matter may just be matter in an adjacent nearby universe that is close enough in a higher dimension to cause gravitational effects on particles in this universe. Whether this matter is actually really “here” is open to interpretation, since there isnt any real way to test this at this time.

    I thought dark energy is just the enormous potential energy in empty space (similiar to that produced by the casimir effect). Is this right/close to being correct?

    Dave

    November 28, 2011 at 8:07 am

  19. The only things that existed before our physical universe were abstract concepts, such as numbers and information. These notions need no tangible matter in order to exist. They were, are and always will be. If these concepts were the only things that predate the universe, then they had to be the culprit that caused the big bang. Numbers and information, one can argue, are definitive of intelligence. Therefore, we have to conclude that intelligence created the universe, the signature of which can be found in dark matter and dark energy.

    matt sardina

    November 29, 2011 at 11:01 pm

  20. I am not sure how many people will read this. Here is the truth. The concept of God is the individual belief about the parallel concept of existance of a supreme creator. whether God exists or not, will not negate the fact that Dark matter and Dark Energy existed from the Beginning of time. Since then, dark energy has been everywhere. It is closer to you than anything else. All things including you are made of matter and energy, and dark matter and energy are the gap fillers that exist everywhere, including in the space/dimension called “mind”. Whatever you perceive, experience, feel, and understand create your reality. Your reality is tied and has in it this phenomenon named “mind”. Now, mind has direct connection to the universe and the ultimate source of energy. Could this ultimate source of energy be the dark energy, and what people call god? and then how is the relationship between mind, god, ultimate universal source, dark energy, and dark matter?

    Anonymous

    December 13, 2011 at 8:26 pm

  21. I just read an analogy to proving God exists . . . . prove that you had a dream!

    wlminex

    January 5, 2012 at 11:37 pm

  22. I feel in my bones that the unaccounted-for mass in the universe is somehow connected with our Creator. He delights in making foolish the “wisdom” of man.

    James Arbuckle

    February 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm

  23. Dear Barbarina Zwicky
    Are you still out there?
    If so, I would like to know if your father Fritz ever crossed paths with Immanuel Velikovsky ?? They were contemporary and must have at least been aware of each other.
    A very very funny thought crossed my mind and I would like to share it with you…..

    Dmitro Woychuk

    Dmitro Woychuk

    March 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Reply

    Dmitro Woychuk

    March 27, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    • Dear Dmitro,

      I do not engage in public forums often, because it unfortunately can give uninvited spoilers a platform for their venom, which would otherwise have no outlet or interest to anyone.

      Thank you for your interest in my father’s work.

      Barbarina

      zwickygalaxy

      October 1, 2014 at 6:35 pm


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